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For reference, Zuck is describing his exact leadership structure from M1 (manager of ~10 ICs) to M2 (manager of multiple M1s/L7+ ICs, scope: ~30+), to D1 (manager of multiple M2s/L8+ ICs, scope: ~75)
Interesting how these folks suddenly woke up to the idea that smaller teams run better. The end of infinite money was sobering. Middle managers will absolutely need to become coaches who create clarity and develop competence in others. They shouldn't even be called managers.
I agree with Mark. It’s common in large organizations to have these types of structures because you get rewarded for it and because often this is the only way for ambitious folks to get promoted. Organizations need to change how they think about promotions and rewards.
Yeah it’s called “empire building” and yep you don’t want it anywhere near your org. Much much easier to stop it at source than retrospectively pulling it out.
It’s a wake up call for leaders to start building a “lean and mean” & resilient organization. Don’t hire managers whose agenda to build their own kingdom.
This is the most compelling thing I've seen coming out of Facebook for a while!
One of the things I really hated about working in a company was middle management who were responsible for "measuring my performance" even though they have no clue how to do what I do
Yep. Too bad he missed the matrix management class. Cross functional teams with strong team leaders and a department management structure whose role is to staff teams and keep up the technical discipline expertise in the company.
I’m at the director level and I manage managers than manage team and then I also manage a team because I also have to be an IC…. Lean organizations keep you sharp
"But everything can be solved by adding an extra layer of indirection." 😭😂
Y lo dice a modo de reproche el propio arquitecto del sistema, el responsable de que haya ocurrido 😂😂😂
My guide to antifragility touches on this exact point. If you’re a middle manager, you’re more fragile than you might think. Check it and other practical tips here: treyhoehner.gumroad.com/l/antifragile-…
Sounds like an accurate description of the majority of large American enterprises
very tech brain.... like ok but what is the alternative org structure for a multi billion dollar company with 100k ICs
Yeah Facebook has a manager problem. I think they're afraid for their jobs, so they hire a manager under them who will get fired before them.
Couldn’t agree more! My thoughts for years. However, Some ICs r not able to contribute. Some mgrs secretly did their work. Open the flood gates on competence or lack thereof. Bring back personal initiative, task ownership, productivity, aligned outcomes.
But what about someone to manage all of those mentioned managers? Surely that counts, no?
And this is why he's one of the richest people in the world, and most of other entrepreneurs fail miserably.
Canadian healthcare summarised. Big governance doesn't work and the era of over administration needs to end.
If a team is large is this not natural bound to happen? or what am I missing?
isn't this a very old comment? i remember seeing this like a few years ago lol. you're an interaction clown.
the funny thing is most of the folks became SDEs because they were not interested in inter-personal interactions and nerding on computational devices, networks and bits and pieces. However, entire SW industry tasks span around solving organizational challenges.
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like it's so annoying
just managers everywhere, no one is actually doing the work
just managers everywhere, no one is actually doing the work
Middle managers is really a real problem in Tech companies. My last job I had 3-4 managers come up to me giving me the same order… most of those dudes were laid off later on since they were so useless.
Hahhaha....
That's the reality now.
The one on the bottom of the chain always get blamed.
That's the reality now.
The one on the bottom of the chain always get blamed.
Mangers are mostly a sign that the business is waiting time on nonessential activities or trying to fill the employees off 20 minutes of free time with BS
These moderators were really harmed by their duty to observe users in high risk, abusive homes during the pandemic and their being asked not to intervene. They deserve alot more than a few thousand dollars for their mental anguish.
Let's keep all the people who make and those who have money in hell together. All the others you can go. And have universal income
This is gonna wake up the woke. The feather bedding is unbelievable. Makes cost higher and productivity lower.
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