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@justinamash | 493,706 followers
National conservatism is repackaged authoritarianism and has little to do with constitutional or fiscal conservatism. The ideology fundamentally rejects individualism and property rights and thus has more in common with socialism than with libertarianism or classical liberalism.

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Multiculturalism means authoritarian government is needed to keep ethnic and racial fights at bay.

Libertarians support unlimited immigration.

The end result of which will be more authoritarianism.

Why are they like this? https://t.co/qqmHfrjDBm
 
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Thomas Jefferson, a liberal of his day, wanted to downgrade the punishment for sodomy and polygamy from capital punishment to castration.

The libertarianism of people like Amash has no basis in American history. These people would have been shamed, deported, or jailed. https://t.co/zLQ5raD7YH
 
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https://t.co/GNG3fTdvty https://t.co/jtH0yWRUpb
 
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@justinamash Nah, conservatism is about preserving what works, purely from a utilitarian point of view. If it doesn’t work & lead to prosperity and peace for the larger public, then it is abandoned. Dem and leftist policies reject utilitarian solutions for ideological ones, as all fascists do
 
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Libertarianism is the only political ideology that’s never been attempted by any nation on earth because at the end of the day it’s just mental masturbation for people who have turned politics into their religion. https://t.co/4i517GcUJH
 
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How does your constitutional or fiscal conservatism answer this?

Or, I assume, this is fine with you https://t.co/vCwaVrR88R https://t.co/2P3DRjeBs4
 
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Libertarianism and conservatism are not the same thing https://t.co/GPC0bj4JOs
 
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This guy cites libertarianism and classical liberalism as good things. Time to wake up, Justin.

Libertarianism ≠ Conservatism

The libertarian control of the American Right will soon come to an end. https://t.co/MHlIdPwuNG
 
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Embrace New Hampshire Nationalism!
#NHexit https://t.co/tAkRcKPqle https://t.co/eDsr9CLY4b
 
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Wow https://t.co/3fFzBYjVjU https://t.co/eO3LCCZkuc
 
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@justinamash No, it’s just actually conservative in the mold of the Federalist and Whig parties. It’s conservative in the Burkean sense, whereas you are a libertarian. Indeed, the GOP has been hijacked by libertarianism for decades, and you’re just panicking because people are noticing.
 
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@justinamash The party that venerated Ronald Reagan would call him a RINO today.
 
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https://t.co/VC52ymEx0S https://t.co/K9L1UDrnNg
 
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Excellent, you've listed all the positive aspects, now where is your critique? ? https://t.co/a9KtgfFMbU
 
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@justinamash Republicans are just yeehaw socialists. https://t.co/JdzJsKW66C
 
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@justinamash @amandacarpenter Weird that you would compare it to socialism rather than fascism when that's clearly what it is.
 
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The ignorance of arrogance meets the arrogance of ignorance in one perfect tweet. https://t.co/C9XeFXm30p
 
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@justinamash Conservatives were never supposed to be libertarians. And were starting to fix that now!
 
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Shots fired. Sad but true..... https://t.co/dwypKsiX0Z
 
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You don't get to redefine terms.

? https://t.co/YmCZjFPqZc
 
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Once conservatives realized that a small, limited government could never deliver the sweeping cultural changes they seek to impose, they abandoned that "bedrock principle" in favor of a powerful, authoritarian model that perhaps could deliver the scale of changes they seek. https://t.co/knJgxKPRXC
 
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@justinamash All conservativism is populism, is nationalistic .
Classical liberalism has never existed except as a facade.
Libertarianism is just a self-serving refuge for rich , educated men .
You are either very confused or lying .
 
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@justinamash It's Bismarkian European statist conservatism. Buy off the working class and feed them nationalism.
 
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Your ideology was constructed by a couple of rich people in the 70s to support free trade for agriculture exports. https://t.co/CPRz95YQ4P
 
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Sounds based. https://t.co/Q0JcDgwEV8
 
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In the real world, US National conservativism wishes to conserve US free government.
Libertarians and classical liberals hate free government, and so have allied with Democrats, who hate freedom. https://t.co/7nIyBCwM3c
 
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@justinamash Man I was agreeing with you until that last bit. Nationalism has almost nothing to do with socialism.
 
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He got one thing right: we aren’t libertarians. https://t.co/UTrblCXACD
 
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@justinamash Individualism yes, which is itself unconservative. But property rights? Why’s it against that?
 
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You say one word against free market dogmatism and these guys start screaming about socialism https://t.co/4DXWCME310
 
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Some might even call it "National Socialism" https://t.co/RQEibCdA0N
 
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https://t.co/rvy5SiDhkJ https://t.co/cbDVtOqx8P
 
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I would be extremely interested in hearing a libertarian take on national conservatism. Amash's unsubstantiated claim is nonsense, but suggests there is interest among libertarians in learning more. Whaddya'think @ThomasEWoods @ThoBishop @mises Inst? How abt intervu w @yhazony? https://t.co/W1uWK8PAWm
 
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National conservatism is a reaction to the American regime's systemic rejection of the constitution, fiscal conservatism, property rights, and the Christian values that built Western civilization.

The ideology rejects liberalism as being sufficient for fixing these problems. https://t.co/PpNVcayGtC
 
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@justinamash Keep on fighting that strawman you just invented. Maybe one of these days you'll win.
 
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@justinamash In what sense is letting market forces commodify everything that’s sacred ‘conservative’ in any possible sense of the word?

What have you people ever conserved?

“individualism & property rights” ?

You are the archetypal Liberal
 
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I would actually be pretty concerned if the radical libertarians were on board with what we were doing. https://t.co/ST4QqyWrpp
 
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National Conservatism rejects property rights because we don't want the Chinese government, Bill Gates, and Black Rock to own 90% of the property in America. https://t.co/kuGgG9yrp6
 
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@justinamash In the real world, US National conservativism wishes to conserve US free government.
Libertarians and classical liberals hate free government, and so have allied with Democrats, who hate freedom.
 
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https://t.co/AFgSxspapF https://t.co/enmadiQJA5
 
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Absolutely correct.
 
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@justinamash The NatCs are following a predictable path.
 
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@justinamash Ok, agreed.
Far-right dis, ✔️
Now, do one for the far-left...
 
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@justinamash I mean... yes. However, religious conservatism was always just thinly veiled authoritarianism. https://t.co/hatIOOYypY
 
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@justinamash I think "repackaged" is giving it too much credit. At this point, it's openly authoritarian.
 
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@justinamash What is "national conservatism"? Who do you associate with this movement?
 
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I've said this before but Donald Trump is the most anti-capitalist president in history. https://t.co/rpTHxJAjYO
 
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@justinamash Agreed. The mental gymnastics required to associate present "National Conservatism" as you mention, as anything else but an amalgamation of Fasci-Socialism is both fascinating and horrifying to observe.
 
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Lol he’s wrong in the authoritarian bit and on property rights but he’s sport on with the rest of it. It’s just he says it likes it’s a bad thing. https://t.co/drPZu5g3Uc
 
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@justinamash It seems Republicanism (MAGA or neocon) seems to be more progressive (somewhat socialistic is suppose) than any form of western liberalism. https://t.co/k5lWnWS2lD
 
 
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@justinamash Well @LPNational has little to do with libertarianism these days and is closer to National Conservatism.
 
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What’s sick is the intertwinement between National conservatism and an ongoing shift to “Christian Nationalism” which is a call for outright theonomy and antithetical to both God and this Country. https://t.co/0bu8drLZvY
 
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@justinamash It has more in common with fascism than it does socialism.
 
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@justinamash Nationalism doesn't just polarize people, it collectivizes them, subordinating them to a group identity. Better to leave such broad generalizations behind, and speak of and to individual people, and specific situations whenever possible.
 
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@justinamash @JacobFisher66 What's an example of “national conservatism?”
 
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@justinamash That's odd Justin . . . We're the ones who are always talking about the Constitution and you're the ones who are always trying to find ways around it. We reject individualism and property rights? What color is the sky on your planet?
 
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@justinamash Here it is folks, Libertarian Loserdom at its finest.
 
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@justinamash "National conservatism," which seems to have no real definition, is far from a perfect ideology, but at least currently seems to have more in common with Pat Buchanan than it does Hitler.

Today's GOP and right-wing media treat libertarians far better than the neocons ever did.
 
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@justinamash What are you talking about? You know we’re all shrugging our shoulders saying…well that’s the opposite of me
 
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?? https://t.co/69F7hOYG9D
 
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@justinamash Modern "socialism" is found in the most progressive and "happiest" nations on earth: Sweden, Norway, Finland, etc. none are authoritarian. People need better education and to quit throwing about words they don't understand. https://t.co/umj8yDIEU2
 
 
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DeSantis, Trump, Gabbard, the Mises Caucus… https://t.co/pTCEHHzV6p
 
 
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National socialism. https://t.co/PPB7GsigJy
 
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@justinamash @amandacarpenter You’re smoking some really strong stuff.
 
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@justinamash @conor64 That’s true but your ideas are impractical and terrible. Don’t get me wrong - the people you’re criticizing are completely on another level of horror. But sadly in terms of practical policies you’re not an answer. You demonstrated this in your Maher appearance for example.
 
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@justinamash Been that way since Reagan. Fiscally conservative?? Give me a break.
 
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Absolute cuck mentality. https://t.co/OaDTckcOmW
 
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Not sure he means to say that the American "conservative" movement isn't akin to national socialism, but that's what he's saying - the stereotypical MAGA type very much believes in individualism and property rights. https://t.co/MkV0G7iLwJ
 
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@justinamash The only two parties with any chance of having power are closer to authoritarian socialism than any form of liberty.

Can you explain, once again, how awesome democracy is?
 
 
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Hmmmm https://t.co/dy3IiDGetc
 
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@justinamash Call it like it is, Nationalist Populism. It is in no way Conservative like Buckley or Reagan. At that, William F Buckley warned us 22 years ago this would happen and he even named who would usher it in. https://t.co/vJT0ZcIIHH https://t.co/GSOTyTzfPR
 
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@justinamash @amandacarpenter National Conservatism is Fascism.

We can’t stop it until we call it what it is.
 
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conservatism hasn't been conservative for over 30 years. what has been conserved? https://t.co/7WL5ernmkj
 
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@justinamash The Left Right paradigm is an illusion of choice and both parties have much more in common with each other than they do not.

Their voter bases are the very definition of useful idiots.
 
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@justinamash I say this calmly, but with a lack of patience—fuck you.
 
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@justinamash What in the fuck did I just read?
 
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@justinamash “If you don’t want the big titty man to teach your kids, you’re an authoritarian!” - Libertarians https://t.co/XdB0Y3RSJW
 
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@justinamash The "new" right sounds a lot like the old right (circa 1930). They should not take umbrage at being called Nazis.... https://t.co/WlvuQrBPgY
 
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Just proves right here how much of a idiot Amash is!
He tried to wordsmith that Conservatives are Nazis!
@jbankscincy @Realpersonpltcs @CryptoLawyerz @julie_kelly2 @JudgeJoeBrownTV @Jules31415 https://t.co/sYyG1m2YW2
 
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@justinamash what an ignorant fool....go away. liberal under so called Liberarianism.. Nothing accomplished . Never for anything always against.
 
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Amash is 100% correct on this. https://t.co/3VLMr154sA
 
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@justinamash Authoritarianism? You mean like locking people in their homes, shutting down their businesses and forcing them to inject things into their bodies against their will? That kind of authoritarianism?
 
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There’s always something surreal about these homilies. "National conservatives believe in [list of conservative things]. Therefore, it clearly has nothing to do with conservatism!" Just argue the merits instead of throwing out syllables. https://t.co/sNXui5yZdy
 
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@justinamash @annbauerwriter Authoritarianism and totalitarianism one uses exterior forces to manufacture compliance the other strips you of agency by stripping you Of civil rights/liberties to force you into compliance
 
 
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You’re entire ideology has failed. Maybe let us conservatives give it a try. https://t.co/hQf6ze0LUp
 
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Conservative=Nazi!
There i fixed it for you!
Next time don't waste so many words.
You sound stupid! https://t.co/sYyG1m2YW2
 
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@justinamash The United States already has a document that very clearly details the "common good" for the country. It's called the US Constitution. "Common-Good Conservatism" is as ridiculous as "Capitalist Socialism."
 
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